Comments on: Black Scholars Get Arrested Too http://propertalks.com/2009/07/20/black-scholars-get-arrested-too/ Proper Talks Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:36:07 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Angela http://propertalks.com/2009/07/20/black-scholars-get-arrested-too/comment-page-1/#comment-1850 Angela Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:09:28 +0000 http://propertalks.com/?p=3225#comment-1850 Tony- good point on the cycle of miscommunication. I think it's part of the reason there is distrust on both sides. But there's also institutionalized racism throughout our penal and justice system. Until we take a hard look at why there are so many more blacks and latinos getting pulled over/in jail beers solve nothing. Thanks for visiting! Looking forward to reading your stuff, too. :) Tony- good point on the cycle of miscommunication. I think it’s part of the reason there is distrust on both sides. But there’s also institutionalized racism throughout our penal and justice system. Until we take a hard look at why there are so many more blacks and latinos getting pulled over/in jail beers solve nothing.

Thanks for visiting! Looking forward to reading your stuff, too. :)

]]> By: Tony Grands http://propertalks.com/2009/07/20/black-scholars-get-arrested-too/comment-page-1/#comment-1833 Tony Grands Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:48:57 +0000 http://propertalks.com/?p=3225#comment-1833 The police dept(s) nationwide need to have a system of checks & balances implemented by some force other than their own. They're watching us but who's watching them? Us, thats who-which only leads to a cycle of miscommunication & fear/anger/impetuous decision making & everyone loses. This situation could've been avoided on several levels, & I think it's going to take more than Obama & Biden getting buzzed with a couple of cats to make a dent that took hundreds of years to create. I see you on DP's site, & Culture (bbcult), so hey, check out another Black Man with something to say. I'm official (one of DP's "Nukkas" blogs- "Reading & Writing Is For Dumb People". Click the link.....tell me what you think. Good drop, btw. Easy. http://tonygrands.blogspot.com The police dept(s) nationwide need to have a system of checks & balances implemented by some force other than their own. They’re watching us but who’s watching them? Us, thats who-which only leads to a cycle of miscommunication & fear/anger/impetuous decision making & everyone loses.

This situation could’ve been avoided on several levels, & I think it’s going to take more than Obama & Biden getting buzzed with a couple of cats to make a dent that took hundreds of years to create.

I see you on DP’s site, & Culture (bbcult), so hey, check out another Black Man with something to say. I’m official (one of DP’s “Nukkas” blogs- “Reading & Writing Is For Dumb People”. Click the link…..tell me what you think. Good drop, btw. Easy.

http://tonygrands.blogspot.com

]]> By: Angela http://propertalks.com/2009/07/20/black-scholars-get-arrested-too/comment-page-1/#comment-1781 Angela Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:25:28 +0000 http://propertalks.com/?p=3225#comment-1781 Chad-- I find it funny that the only time certain people comment on this site is to defend possibly racist behavior (Oscar Grant, racist republican antics, etc). The police department has dropped all charges, probably because the idea of someone being arrested in his home for no real reason is absurd. If you read the post or any other articles about the incident you'd know that Gates did indeed show ID to the officer and the officer was convinced that Gates lived at the address. If you'd like to have a serious dialogue about race, the police or whatever else, this is definitely the space, but if you just want to defend racist or questionable behavior, this isn't the blog for you. Chad– I find it funny that the only time certain people comment on this site is to defend possibly racist behavior (Oscar Grant, racist republican antics, etc). The police department has dropped all charges, probably because the idea of someone being arrested in his home for no real reason is absurd. If you read the post or any other articles about the incident you’d know that Gates did indeed show ID to the officer and the officer was convinced that Gates lived at the address. If you’d like to have a serious dialogue about race, the police or whatever else, this is definitely the space, but if you just want to defend racist or questionable behavior, this isn’t the blog for you.

]]> By: Chad http://propertalks.com/2009/07/20/black-scholars-get-arrested-too/comment-page-1/#comment-1780 Chad Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:20:43 +0000 http://propertalks.com/?p=3225#comment-1780 Face the facts. First, the police responded to a report of someone possibly breaking into a house, not a report of the homeowner trying to get into his own home. The police officer was doing his job, properly, by the book, by asking Gates for ID to prove it was him at his residence. A police officer can not take someone at their word, it could have been anyone. Just because Gates is known among some people doesn't mean that he is known among all or even most people. There is no excuse for Gates initially acting the way he did. I guess he just has some emotional problems. A real disappointment for a scholar of any race. Would Gate have reacted the same way if a black officer initially responded? It seems like Gates is the racist in this case. Second, the officer was within his right to arrest or give a citation to Gates for disorderly conduct. Gates refused to show ID, it was the officer who restrained himself in giving Gates multiple opportunities to prove his identity. The officer did not have to do that. For a scholar, Gates is ignorant and his behavior is inexcusable. Face the facts. First, the police responded to a report of someone possibly breaking into a house, not a report of the homeowner trying to get into his own home. The police officer was doing his job, properly, by the book, by asking Gates for ID to prove it was him at his residence. A police officer can not take someone at their word, it could have been anyone. Just because Gates is known among some people doesn’t mean that he is known among all or even most people. There is no excuse for Gates initially acting the way he did. I guess he just has some emotional problems. A real disappointment for a scholar of any race. Would Gate have reacted the same way if a black officer initially responded? It seems like Gates is the racist in this case. Second, the officer was within his right to arrest or give a citation to Gates for disorderly conduct. Gates refused to show ID, it was the officer who restrained himself in giving Gates multiple opportunities to prove his identity. The officer did not have to do that. For a scholar, Gates is ignorant and his behavior is inexcusable.

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